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[[File:SoyteenOldfag.png|thumb|No moar brother wars o algo desu. If only oldfags were a little less pedophillic.]] | |||
One might think that soyteens, living in a wildly different ecosystem compared to oldfags, would create a proportionally distinct slang. This is, however, not the case: many parallels can be drawn not only between oldfag history/culture and soystory/soy culture, but also between 4chan slang and soyspeak. This page is meant to showcase such similarities and demonstrate the analogous nature of the two groups. Oldfag terms that are still (occasionally) used to this day in the soysphere (excluding /sude/) will be marked with an asterisk. Conversely, terms used by soyteens that are not actually part of soyspeak (and might originate from, say, 2010's 4chan) will have two asterisks next to them. | One might think that soyteens, living in a wildly different ecosystem compared to oldfags, would create a proportionally distinct slang. This is, however, not the case: many parallels can be drawn not only between oldfag history/culture and soystory/soy culture, but also between 4chan slang and soyspeak. This page is meant to showcase such similarities and demonstrate the analogous nature of the two groups. Oldfag terms that are still (occasionally) used to this day in the soysphere (excluding /sude/) will be marked with an asterisk. Conversely, terms used by soyteens that are not actually part of soyspeak (and might originate from, say, 2010's 4chan) will have two asterisks next to them. | ||
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|CP* | |CP* | ||
|'p | |'p | ||
|a) Abbreviation of {{Singularitytext|child pornography}}. Euphemisms like cheese pizza and Captain | |a) Abbreviation of {{Singularitytext|child pornography}}. Euphemisms like cheese pizza and [[Captain 'P|Captain Pi]]card describe the same thing. | ||
b) [[Wikipedia:Apostrophe|Apostrophization]] of CP. Theoretically doesn't count since apostrophization can be applied to any term, however is it a standalone term, which is why | b) [[Wikipedia:Apostrophe|Apostrophization]] of CP. Theoretically doesn't count since apostrophization can be applied to any term, however is it a standalone term, which is why it is included. | ||
|Many soyteens consider {{Antimattertext|loli/shota/jailbait}}. as 'p, which are grey area content, while most oldfags do not consider those to be CP. Unrelated to this distinction (or lack thereof), 'p is many times used in an exaggerate manner in the Soysphere. | |Many soyteens consider {{Antimattertext|loli/shota/jailbait}}. as 'p, which are grey area content, while most oldfags do not consider those to be CP. Unrelated to this distinction (or lack thereof), 'p is many times used in an exaggerate manner in the Soysphere. | ||
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|a) Lol + what, also has an image macro associated with it. | |a) Lol + what, also has an image macro associated with it. | ||
b) Derives from a [[Sharty:Lee Goldson|leebait]] edit of a Simpsons scene involving the character [[Wikipedia:Marge Simpson|Marge Bouvier Simpson]]. | b) Derives from a [[Sharty:Lee Goldson|leebait]] edit of a Simpsons scene involving the character [[Wikipedia:Marge Simpson|Marge Bouvier Simpson]]. | ||
|"Marge" only expresses confusion, while "lolwut" can also be a way of | |"Marge" only expresses confusion, while "lolwut" can also be a way of conveying humour. | ||
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|troon** | |troon** | ||
|a) Pejorative term for {{Cordtext|transsexual}} | |a) Pejorative term for {{Cordtext|transsexual}} | ||
b) Came from [[Gaming Garbage|Something Awful]] of all places (trans + goon, a SA user). | b) Came from [[Gaming Garbage|Something Awful]] of all places (trans + goon, a SA user). We use it pejoratively WHICH IS A GOOD THING FUCK TROONS. <- yes | ||
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|a) Comes from a shortened version of faggot, a pejorative term for homosexuals. | |a) Comes from a shortened version of faggot, a pejorative term for homosexuals. | ||
b) Varies depending on the context wherein the suffix is used. Connotations also differ wildly. | b) Varies depending on the context wherein the suffix is used. Connotations also differ wildly. | ||
|The -fag suffix, which became independent of its derogatory connotation, started a tendency of | |The -fag suffix, which became independent of its derogatory connotation, started a tendency of using various suffixes as a vehicle for one to share his own opinion on the content of the affected noun. | ||
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|oldfag* | |oldfag* | ||
|oldtroon/oldfag (specifically | |oldtroon/oldfag (specifically referring to soyjak.party users) | ||
|a) Old + -fag. | |a) Old + -fag. | ||
b) Oldfag + troon. | b) Oldfag + troon. | ||
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|a) New + -fag. | |a) New + -fag. | ||
b) Nu-male (disputed) + soiteen (alternate form of soyteen). | b) Nu-male (disputed) + soiteen (alternate form of soyteen). | ||
|There is a very clear difference between nusoi and newGOD, unlike in the case of newfag, a term which has less nuance and is typically used to name new users who cause a decrease of website quality. NewGOD and nusoi are two terms that are (or should be) about as strict in terms of meaning as newfag, if not even more. A nusoi is a type of newfag (usually having 1 month - 1 year of activity behind them) that mocks other newfags (also calling them nusois. This means the secondary definition of the word is necessary to understanding its primary one). A newGOD is a newfag that is generally viewed positively by the community due to his | |There is a very clear difference between nusoi and newGOD, unlike in the case of newfag, a term which has less nuance and is typically used to name new users who cause a decrease of website quality. NewGOD and nusoi are two terms that are (or should be) about as strict in terms of meaning as newfag, if not even more. A nusoi is a type of newfag (usually having 1 month - 1 year of activity behind them) that mocks other newfags (also calling them nusois. This means the secondary definition of the word is necessary to understanding its primary one). A newGOD is a newfag that is generally viewed positively by the community due to his willingness to assimilate therein. | ||
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|an hero (noun, verb) | |an hero (noun, verb) | ||
| -ACK! (interj.) | | -ACK! (interj.) | ||
|a) Was coined once some friends of Mitchell Henderson (who commited suicide for unknown reasons) edited his [[Wikipedia:MySpace|Myspace]] account, writing about him, | |a) Was coined once some friends of Mitchell Henderson (who commited suicide for unknown reasons) edited his [[Wikipedia:MySpace|Myspace]] account, writing about him, and misspelled "a hero". | ||
b) Onomatopeia for the sound a tranny makes when he is being asphyxiated, similar to the death rattle. Used to interrupt phrases in the soysphere for additional humour (e.g. "Trans rights are human r-ACK!"). | b) Onomatopeia for the sound a tranny makes when he is being asphyxiated, similar to the death rattle. Used to interrupt phrases in the soysphere for additional humour (e.g. "Trans rights are human r-ACK!"). | ||
|Theoretically they are not synonyms as they are different parts of speech. | |Theoretically they are not synonyms as they are different parts of speech. | ||
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|fap | |fap | ||
|goon | |goon** | ||
|a) | |a) Onomatopeia. | ||
b) Apparently dates back to 2005. | b) Apparently dates back to 2005. | ||
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<td>desu</td> | |||
| href="Wikipedia:Emo" |or something/o algo (approx.) | |||
|a) Japanese word that is meant to link the subject and the predicate in a polite manner. Popularized thanks to the anime Rozen Maiden and had any meaning stripped away from it once 4chan started using it relentlessly. | |||
b) O algo = or something in Spanish. Both terms are used to mock either Americans or Mexicans for using these constructions erratically. | |||
|The soyspeak terms do actually carry a meaning, that of uncertainty. "Desu" does not. | |||
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|wtfux | |||
|meds | |||
|a) (Invalid) plural form of the abbreviaton WTF. Also used to be the name of a chanosphere-related website (which hosted Encyclopedia Dramatica's IRC). | |||
b) A more subtle aspect of this term is that it also is a commentary on how society could be trying to bring back unconforming individuals to normality through chemical means. Also ridicules modern medicine's obsession with curing psychological conditions with medication. | |||
|"Meds" is a more aggressive way of scoffing at someone and also sometimes implies the interlocutor should take action due to their beliefs. | |||
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Moreover, there are "oldfag" terms still being used in the soysphere while having no soysphere counterparts. AIDS | Moreover, there are "oldfag" terms still being used in the soysphere while having no soysphere counterparts. AIDS and R34 are examples of this, also being used everywhere else OTI. "Tranny" could potentially be one of those terms as "troon" was not made to replace an obsolete term, rather it was created exactly since the former became too well known. | ||
Some cultural phenomena are also reminiscent of one another, as previously mentioned. One example would be {{Brimtext|transsexualism}}, which is today's equivalent of [[ | Some cultural phenomena are also reminiscent of one another, as previously mentioned. One example would be {{Brimtext|transsexualism}}, which is today's equivalent of [[wikipedia:Emo|emo culture]] that experienced a surge in the late 2000s/early 2010s. Here is a continuation of the previous table, dealing, this time, with analogous websites, events, people etc. Oldfag sites which are still mildly relevant in the soysphere will be marked with an asterisk. "New" aspects of OTI society that existed (but did not have as great of an impact as they have now) in the oldfag era will obtain two. | ||
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!Oldfag phenomenon | |||
!Soyteen-era counterpart | |||
!Distinctions, if there are any major ones, or notable coincidences | |||
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|Touched upon earlier | |||
|Emos | |||
|[[Trannies]]** | |||
|Many emos were baggots as well, therefore related to trannies. | |||
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|[[7chan]] | |||
|[[Jakparty.soy|The Jarty]] | |||
|Very well known splinters that had uneasy relations with their counterparts, while also exhibiting more degeneracy than those. 7chan outlived the Jarty. | |||
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|[[sharty:Tumblr|Tumblr]]* | |||
|[[sharty:Crystal_Cafe|crystal.cafe]] | |||
|Both websites' userbases consist (or, perhaps, used to consist) of TERFs. Tumblr has been shipped more or less ironically with 4chan's /b/ ("4chomblr", also see ED's article on Operation Overlord), the same thing happening with crystal.cafe and soyjak.party. | |||
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|[[sharty:Encyclopedia_Dramatica|Encyclopedia Dramatica]]* | |||
|[[Soyjak Wiki]] | |||
|ED had nothing to do with the *chans, initially, as it was created to document LiveJournal drama. EDramatica also has a much more amoral philosophy than the Soymunnity and is more hit-or-miss when it comes to article quality (sometimes it presents itself just like a [[Foodist|failtroll]] [[Skibidi Farms|group]] [[sharty:Failtroll#UTTP|would]] [[sharty:Failtroll#Gnarpedia_/_Nolimitspedia|do]], other times it hosts clever and informative articles. The "High Score" page is a gruesome combination of those two). Soyjak Wiki users (and, by extension, we) borrow and modify their templates. | |||
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|{{Equinox|content=LulzSec}} | |||
|{{Antimattertext|Any modern failtroll group (e.g. Skibidi Farms)}} | |||
|LulzSec was a skiddie group partially inspired by Anonymous that targeted, for example, the FBI and CIA's official sites. Some members would actually get arrested due to terrible opsec. The main difference is that LulzSec specialized in cybercrimes related to hacking websites and was not a pedophile cesspool (being full of script kiddies). All in all, it is a more innocent, but, at the same time, reckless version of similar modern groups who, instead of DDoSing glowies, as they are not as 1337, focus on {{Singularitytext|distributing illegal media or sextorting children.}} | |||
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[[Category:Soyjak.party]] | |||
Latest revision as of 19:26, 17 February 2026

One might think that soyteens, living in a wildly different ecosystem compared to oldfags, would create a proportionally distinct slang. This is, however, not the case: many parallels can be drawn not only between oldfag history/culture and soystory/soy culture, but also between 4chan slang and soyspeak. This page is meant to showcase such similarities and demonstrate the analogous nature of the two groups. Oldfag terms that are still (occasionally) used to this day in the soysphere (excluding /sude/) will be marked with an asterisk. Conversely, terms used by soyteens that are not actually part of soyspeak (and might originate from, say, 2010's 4chan) will have two asterisks next to them.
| Oldfag term | Soyspeak/Term used by soyteens | Origin of expressions | Additional notes (i.e. key-differences, if there are any) | |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | BAWWW | seethe** | a) Comes from a diaper fetish furfag comic.
b) Exact origin unknown. Dates back to around 2018 (perhaps even further back), when someone first wrote a definition of it on the Urban Dictionary. |
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| 2 | lulz | seetherald (approx.) | a) Bastardization of lol.
b) Seethe + gemerald. |
Both terms indicate Schadenfreude to some degree. Lulz, however, is a broader term, and cannot only be pinpointed to Schadenfreude. |
| 3 | raeg | feral | a) Intentional misspelling of rage (note that rage can still be used to convey the same term).
b) Derived from Feraljak. |
- |
| 4 | win | gem | a) Verb-to-noun conversion.
b) Part of mineral rating system. |
Gem is, in this case, part of a more complex semantic field, while win only has an antonym: fail. Therefore, win is a more general term than gem. |
| 5 | epic win | gemerald (approx.) | a) Epic + win.
b) Gem + emerald. |
Same distinction as the one between win and gem, this time even more evident, as gemerald |
| 6 | ZOMG! | WAOW!/Oh my science!/Oh my Fauci! | a) Intentional misspelling.
b) Phrases meant to mock soyboys who are hardline atheists. |
The former holds less maliciousness than the latter in terms of sarcasm. |
| 7 | fail | coal | a) See 4.
b) See 4. |
See 4. |
| 8 | epic fail | - | a) Meant to describe a "fail" so foolish it would bring great humour with it. | At this point, the MRS deviates semantically from the win-fail dichotomy so much, its analogous terms cannot be considered synonymous anymore. Brimstone or vantablack would be the analogous terms. |
| 9 | CP* | 'p | a) Abbreviation of child pornography. Euphemisms like cheese pizza and Captain Picard describe the same thing.
b) Apostrophization of CP. Theoretically doesn't count since apostrophization can be applied to any term, however is it a standalone term, which is why it is included. |
Many soyteens consider loli/shota/jailbait |
| 10 | 4chan party van (noun)
Party vanned/V& (verb) |
Feds**/Glowies**/Glowniggers** (noun)
Fedded** (verb) |
a) Originates from a comic wherein an anon is arrested via a FBI van which has "4chan party van" written on it.
b) "Feds" is also used IRL, which may be where it came from. "Glowie" refers to Terry Davis' statement "The CIA niggers glow in the dark". |
"Glowies" usually refers to the CIA, while "4chan party van" refers to the FBI. |
| 11 | lol*/kek* | geg/kek** (frogposters) | a) Lol is an usenet era term. Kek is tied to Pepe the frog.
b) An alternative way to pronounce kek. Irish in origin. |
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| 12 | lulzy | geggy | a) Adjective derived from lulz.
b) Adjective derived from geg. |
Despite lulz and geg not being interchangeable, their respective adjectives are, as the adjective adjacent to lulz did not manage to carry its full meaning. |
| 13 | lolwut | marge | a) Lol + what, also has an image macro associated with it.
b) Derives from a leebait edit of a Simpsons scene involving the character Marge Bouvier Simpson. |
"Marge" only expresses confusion, while "lolwut" can also be a way of conveying humour. |
| 14 | - | margerald | b) Marge + (g)emerald. | Usually describes nonsense with a high amount of effort put into it. |
| 15 | HA HA HA, OH WOW | OHNONONO [x] WHAT IS THIS?/DO [x] REALLY? (frogposters, ocassionally soyposters as well) (approx.) | a) Comes from a Tintin comic strip. Sometimes used IRL by groups unaffiliated with the Chanosphere.
b) Unknown. |
The latter is used in "baiting" posts ([x] usually being "nusois" when used in frogposting), while the former's use cases are more complex (and not very well documented). |
| 16 | femanon | foid**/an foid/Kate (rarely) | a) Female + Anon.
b) Initially an incel term, now used in a mostly non-derogatory manner (in order to scare off-siters, among other purposes). |
"Femanon" refers specifically to a woman that has entered the Chanosphere. "Kate" comes from "Kate Hikes", which is supposed to be a female version of Nate Higgers. |
| 17 | qt 3.14 | OMGSISA/OMGHISA/OMGXISA | a) Spells out "Cutie pie".
b) Acronym for "Oh my God, she/he/xe is so attractive". |
Both can be used ironically, especially the soyspeak term. |
| 18 | tranny* | troon** | a) Pejorative term for b) Came from Something Awful of all places (trans + goon, a SA user). We use it pejoratively WHICH IS A GOOD THING FUCK TROONS. <- yes |
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| 19 | -fag | -GOD, -DEITY, -KING, -soi, -troon, -pedo, -cuck etc. | a) Comes from a shortened version of faggot, a pejorative term for homosexuals.
b) Varies depending on the context wherein the suffix is used. Connotations also differ wildly. |
The -fag suffix, which became independent of its derogatory connotation, started a tendency of using various suffixes as a vehicle for one to share his own opinion on the content of the affected noun. |
| 20 | oldfag* | oldtroon/oldfag (specifically referring to soyjak.party users) | a) Old + -fag.
b) Oldfag + troon. |
Oldtroon is always pejorative and mostly refers to non-Soysphere oldfags, but it can be used alternatively with oldfag, which is also used to denote Soysphere oldfags. |
| 21 | newfag* | nusoi/newGOD | a) New + -fag.
b) Nu-male (disputed) + soiteen (alternate form of soyteen). |
There is a very clear difference between nusoi and newGOD, unlike in the case of newfag, a term which has less nuance and is typically used to name new users who cause a decrease of website quality. NewGOD and nusoi are two terms that are (or should be) about as strict in terms of meaning as newfag, if not even more. A nusoi is a type of newfag (usually having 1 month - 1 year of activity behind them) that mocks other newfags (also calling them nusois. This means the secondary definition of the word is necessary to understanding its primary one). A newGOD is a newfag that is generally viewed positively by the community due to his willingness to assimilate therein. |
| 22 | nu-male | soyboy** | a) Nu (letter of the greek alphabet) + male.
b) Soy + boy. |
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| 23 | HAHAHA DISREGARD THAT. I SUCK COCKS! | i'm trans btw | a) Probably from LiveJournal vandalizing sprees. Used for false-flagging.
b) Used to mock transsexuals. |
The latter is also obtained if you get the "Alicia" nameroll on /soy/. It is pretty much never used for false-flagging. |
| 24 | divide by zero | - | a) Based on the fact you cannot divide by zero unless you consider zero to be an arbitrarily small number, in which case the result will be an arbitrarily large number, i.e. infinity. | A correlated term is Thrembo as they are both regarded as mathematical memes. Another similarty is how both are jokingly considered to be beyond normal human comprehension. |
| 25 | trolling* | baiting** (approx.) | a) Initially a fishing term that was first used in the pre-usenet era of the Internet.
b) Also a fishing term. Came about later. |
Baiting specifically refers to trolling soyteens by posting "bait" (shocking or lascivious media that is meant to garner replies and generally an emotional response). |
| 26 | an hero (noun, verb) | -ACK! (interj.) | a) Was coined once some friends of Mitchell Henderson (who commited suicide for unknown reasons) edited his Myspace account, writing about him, and misspelled "a hero".
b) Onomatopeia for the sound a tranny makes when he is being asphyxiated, similar to the death rattle. Used to interrupt phrases in the soysphere for additional humour (e.g. "Trans rights are human r-ACK!"). |
Theoretically they are not synonyms as they are different parts of speech. |
| 27 | over 9000 | a gorbillion**/a thrembillion | a) In reference to a Dragon Ball Z sequence.
b) Gorbillion is a chuddy dogwhistle meant to mock the constant emphasis put on the Holocaust's death toll by the media. Thrembillion = gorbillion + thrembo. |
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| 28 | pwn | BTFO** | a) Punch + own.
b) Abbreviation for bail the fuck out. |
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| 29 | fap | goon** | a) Onomatopeia.
b) Apparently dates back to 2005. |
- |
| 30 | desu | or something/o algo (approx.) | a) Japanese word that is meant to link the subject and the predicate in a polite manner. Popularized thanks to the anime Rozen Maiden and had any meaning stripped away from it once 4chan started using it relentlessly.
b) O algo = or something in Spanish. Both terms are used to mock either Americans or Mexicans for using these constructions erratically. |
The soyspeak terms do actually carry a meaning, that of uncertainty. "Desu" does not. |
| 31 | wtfux | meds | a) (Invalid) plural form of the abbreviaton WTF. Also used to be the name of a chanosphere-related website (which hosted Encyclopedia Dramatica's IRC).
b) A more subtle aspect of this term is that it also is a commentary on how society could be trying to bring back unconforming individuals to normality through chemical means. Also ridicules modern medicine's obsession with curing psychological conditions with medication. |
"Meds" is a more aggressive way of scoffing at someone and also sometimes implies the interlocutor should take action due to their beliefs. |
Moreover, there are "oldfag" terms still being used in the soysphere while having no soysphere counterparts. AIDS and R34 are examples of this, also being used everywhere else OTI. "Tranny" could potentially be one of those terms as "troon" was not made to replace an obsolete term, rather it was created exactly since the former became too well known.
Some cultural phenomena are also reminiscent of one another, as previously mentioned. One example would be transsexualism
, which is today's equivalent of emo culture that experienced a surge in the late 2000s/early 2010s. Here is a continuation of the previous table, dealing, this time, with analogous websites, events, people etc. Oldfag sites which are still mildly relevant in the soysphere will be marked with an asterisk. "New" aspects of OTI society that existed (but did not have as great of an impact as they have now) in the oldfag era will obtain two.
| Oldfag phenomenon | Soyteen-era counterpart | Distinctions, if there are any major ones, or notable coincidences | |
|---|---|---|---|
| Touched upon earlier | Emos | Trannies** | Many emos were baggots as well, therefore related to trannies. |
| 1 | 7chan | The Jarty | Very well known splinters that had uneasy relations with their counterparts, while also exhibiting more degeneracy than those. 7chan outlived the Jarty. |
| 2 | Tumblr* | crystal.cafe | Both websites' userbases consist (or, perhaps, used to consist) of TERFs. Tumblr has been shipped more or less ironically with 4chan's /b/ ("4chomblr", also see ED's article on Operation Overlord), the same thing happening with crystal.cafe and soyjak.party. |
| 3 | Encyclopedia Dramatica* | Soyjak Wiki | ED had nothing to do with the *chans, initially, as it was created to document LiveJournal drama. EDramatica also has a much more amoral philosophy than the Soymunnity and is more hit-or-miss when it comes to article quality (sometimes it presents itself just like a failtroll group would do, other times it hosts clever and informative articles. The "High Score" page is a gruesome combination of those two). Soyjak Wiki users (and, by extension, we) borrow and modify their templates. |
| 4 | Any modern failtroll group (e.g. Skibidi Farms) |
LulzSec was a skiddie group partially inspired by Anonymous that targeted, for example, the FBI and CIA's official sites. Some members would actually get arrested due to terrible opsec. The main difference is that LulzSec specialized in cybercrimes related to hacking websites and was not a pedophile cesspool (being full of script kiddies). All in all, it is a more innocent, but, at the same time, reckless version of similar modern groups who, instead of DDoSing glowies, as they are not as 1337, focus on distributing illegal media or sextorting children. |